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Destin working the wolfram style of argumentation pretty hard in this thread. (yt iz bad cuz I said it iz with multiple conclusory arguments rawrrr). The server desperately needs a relaunch to ever have hope of attracting that mass of casuals and interested blue players as well as some of the diehards that quit. They didn't quit because they lost a mmorpg which be definition cannot be won or lost regardless of what idiots on either side of the aisle think, they quit because the server lost all credibility in their eyes, the eyes of the majority of people who have ever dabbled in red and rolled a character. The reasons behind this have been mentioned repeatedly.

Look at what happened to diablo 3 at launch. Hackers botters cheaters galore. Would new content bring me back to that game? No way the entire integrity of that game has been compromised and the issue is still rampant. I might run through the new content once to see it but then I'd quit for the same reasons before. Same issue here. A relaunch would peak interest again, give the server a shot at a second first impression. Guard assist, may o the exploits fixed, faster exp, global ooc, these things can hook people when they come back but will only do so if they come back to something new that has tons of other people coming back with them that they can play with and is clean in their eyes from prior corruption and exploitation.

Or we can just launch kunark and watch a lot of new people burn out as they roll iksar monks, can't find groups, see tons of empty zones, and all quit. Dunno guess its a hard choice. Kunark without a relaunch and fixes appeals to a very finite group of people and these people are not enough to breathe fresh life into this server.