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Originally Posted by Ele
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These instances differ because TMO did not pull Draco off you on July 15, even though based on the reasoning provided in this thread by BDA officers, TMO would have been well within our right to do so.
They also differ because TMO did not take the server law into its own hands like BDA did on July 19 wherein BDA assumed TMO was kiting and KS'd Draco even though TMO had FTE.
Strangely enough neither of the fraps your guild members presented show where the TMO camp was situated.
So because you eventually wiped to the train of mobs that was being kited and ping-ponged on July 15, that was okay because it did not trivialize the content? All those BDA mobs on July 15 indeed caused accidents as evidenced by the fraps I posted.
I'll ask again. Based on previous logic of BDA officers in this thread would not TMO have been right to kill the July 15 Draco? Did not BDA kite mobs before and after Draco on July 15? Did not BDA lose control of said mobs after Draco on July 15? Did not BDA break Ambrotos' ruling about kiting and uncontrolled mobs? Did not BDA break the spirit of Ambrotos' ruling by getting other people killed due to BDA's uncontrolled mobs and trains on July 15?
You should most definitely have at least a couple people running fraps on any raid, whether you think an incident will occur or not. It helps you grow as a player/guild to perfect strategies, placement, timings, and routes, among other things, such as bug reports and petitions.
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i'm not even going to respond to every one of those point by point because now you're framing the situation to suit your mindset
each situation was different, not acknowledging that it's ridiculous - and by acknowledge i mean more so than saying "well here tmo didn't steal draco and here bda did" because you've already decided how you feel about
in my opinion we presented evidence showing TMO training mobs (which was against the ambrotos doctrine) and your puller bringing draco to our camp as opposed to the TMO camp which was on the other side of the hill
in my opinion you presented evidence showing BDA pulling draco plus a bunch of adds and then bda attempting to down all the adds for 7+ minutes
obviously we aren't going to agree on the presented information so i don't really feel like addressing anymore allegation and/or twisted facts