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Originally Posted by Nietche
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You're the only guild on the server who can kill top end stuff right now due to raid suspension. If the TMO ban were magically extended 5.5 more months, BDA would be just as hated by the same people who apparently hate TMO for the same reasons.
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From day 1 of your guild's suspension, BDA has been open about competition, agreement, and cooperation within the raid scene. If your suspension was magically upheld for another 5.5 months, I'm sure BDA would work with the other guilds to set up opportunities for any raid guild to, at minimum attempt a mob, and probably even split mobs equally, from Vox/Naggy all the way up to Trak. For instance, with only two weeks of free Traks, BDA has allowed all other forces 2-hour windows on alternating Traks, after which we host an open raid. If Divinity had downed Trak, do you not think Divinity would have pushed for more access to Trak? Do you think Sanluen would have denied them that opportunity? At one point, San was your guild leader, and I hope a friend as well. Has your opinion of him become that tainted that quickly?
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Originally Posted by Nietche
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Really? IB, VD, and BDA; you're actually going to count these three guilds as 3 separate guilds? Let's not forget The Black Hand (hello Bische, Nightfall, etc.). This relationship between IB/VD and BDA is reminiscent of the IB/VD one prior to when IB left the server except now I'm not sure which guild is prostituting itself to which guild.
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Neitche, its called a guild merge and if you want to know more about how those work, speak with the TMO/DA/Fusion (did you keep any of those guys?) members within your new home, I'm sure they know how mergers work.
Also, you have no idea how the IB/VD relationship was, you were in neither guild, nor the competition TMO at the time. The only knowledge you have of cutthroat raiding and the guild relationships involved are the stories you hear from your elders in your current guild.
Finally, your elders in TMO whined for a long time that IB/VD was a singular guild and should act like one, merge, and compete instead of wanting two raid slots. Now BDA does not want the cutthroat competition IB/VD offered, but it is a single raid guild, as you asked. Neitche, your elders asked for something, they got it, and as an underling sucking off the nipple of their hard work, you need to appreciate the work that everyone actually involved has put into this raid scene. If prostitution exists anywhere in this raid scene, its the new members who have flocked to TMO since they lost competition. Even Stealin would agree with me on this. Its easy to be on top when you don't have to work for it, right Neitche?
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Originally Posted by Nietche
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This is all one-sided propaganda. Only the truly ingenuous believes that there can ever be a top end guild—by its true definition—who will be loved by all. TMO is very good to this server, and I believed that long before I ever applied to TMO.
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I will concede that the top guild usually receives the most flak. However, I offer EQmac as an example of a low-pop server where top raid guilds cooperate instead of compete. Yes, a hierarchy of guilds exist, but that doesn't mean they have to look down upon "lesser" guilds with disdain. The top guild is a positive motivating force, and that filters down through the server's population. Leaders, be they guilds or persons, can lead in multiple styles, suppression is not the only option.
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Ingenious - (of a person) Clever, original, and inventive.