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Old 06-04-2012, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Wolfram: Who is losing their progress here - the 10 people online? Should we just wait till that's 5? 0?

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Players like to start new/fresh (source: I ran VZTZ during its peak, have actually played previous red servers). If you launched with other features (adjusted exp) and an actual timeline, then players would want to start up here again. You label the past eight months as extended beta, which is what it has been, and write this off as a one-time only thing. Player trust isn't impacted because, again, no one is playing right now.
Who's losing their progress, you ask? Well, me for one. I haven't logged in for weeks but I still don't want to lose my character in case the population turns around. I invested around 15 days of played time into my Bard and really enjoyed it. If the server wiped I wouldn't come back, and neither would a lot of people. I don't want to spend another minute grinding back up to 50, and I don't want to have the insecurity of knowing my character could be wiped at any moment. Some people are (naively I admit) waiting for Kunark, or PoSky, and still want their characters in tact even though they aren't online right now. That's too much of a risk to take just because you have some hunch that people "like a fresh start".

Let me try to make this simpler (I mean this in the least condescending way possible):

You have two choices, one is implementing a bunch of changes, the other is wiping and reopening with those changes implemented. If the changes you implement are good enough to bring people back after wiping, then they're good enough to bring people back if you don't wipe. You just need to bring lots of people back at once, which means you need to advertise the changes well beforehand. Wiping isn't necessary and will just deter many players from rerolling and investing their time into the server. Rogean said "we're never going to do a wipe", so people would lose trust if he suddenly wiped the server.

Also, give up on LoZ, and stop advertising it on these forums. It's a waste of your time to roll on a server whose population will never hit triple digits (even with boxing allowed). At least red99 is salvageable due to having years of dev work put into it and not being colossally buggy.
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