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Originally Posted by Fists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand the idea that you believe all of TMO and IB etc were unemployed basement dwellers, and where as some truth may follow that belief, myself being both an ex TMO/IB; raided, logged in at 4 am, while working 40 hours a week and taking a full load of school at the same time. I can also list a multitude of people from both guilds that I know are employed, go to school, or even both.

The nostalgia fades for everyone. 95% of us have done this all before, but there is still the desire to farm, find and play with friends, and better your character. Fixing the raiding scene is just a matter of having another guild be willing to track mobs, and log out when you are done playing (or towards the end of a window), at that target necessary. I can then argue that if it pops at 3-4 am, don't log on so what let them have it, many guilds in Classic played that way and still got mobs (WI, Trans, Div). Not every mob spawns late, every guild does have a few European players that can track on off hours, recruit as necessary and the problems solved.

TMO controls everything because no one else even attempts to compete. Taking an hour long shift to track while you make/eat dinner doesn't make you a basement dwelling no-lifer.

I highly doubt what's in bold. I worked 40 hours a week and was going to school full time (3 classes are minimum full time here) and I barely was able to play for an hour most days I didn't even login. That was even with studying while logged in. But I suppose the benefit of being in a large guild is that no doubt some of the people if not most tend to just get carried while they afk through a raid so they can collect loot.