If a VP dragon is killed and the whole guild zones out and I log to my alt to loot the item, does that cede my loot rights?
I say the answer is that I clearly retain all rights. Given that Rogean's statement clearly homogenizes raid mobs and non-raid mobs for the rule's purposes, I fail to see your distinction.
Yes, you MIGHT argue that by logging you sent a message implicitly that you were giving up the loot rights. However, determining any implicit statments would be a factual inquiry unique to each situation. Implicit cessation of loot rights should be the exception and not the norm. That is precisely why I recommended he tell the individual lurking nearby that he does not, under any circumstances, cede his rights.
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Originally Posted by Rogean
Ninja looting is not a raid dispute. It is an individual basis. If a mob is killed in a non-disputable zone, the group (and thus raid/guild) that is merited the kill has rights to the loot. If they don't grant you permission to loot the corpse, you are violating an individual server rule by ninja looting.
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As for dropping items, I find two distinctions. 1. Rogean did not include item dropping in his statement. He clearly included any killed mob with unceded loot rights. 2. Item dropping has been explicitly recognized by rule-making authority as "at your own risk."