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Originally Posted by Nirgon
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You get the Nobel Prize for fucking everything bro.
Hey, let me tell you from having been in vent/guildchat with Holocaust every night as a member.
If you provoke a lot of shit, don't be surprised if you get a shit taken on you. This is especially true if you are in a guild that isn't very tightly knit or "only cares about PvE". 5 hard, pipe hitting Holo members may show up and camp you somewhere. There are no rules against it here.
Further, try this shit with any guild and you may get the same result.
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Gotta love the doublespeak from Holo about whether they grief or not. If you're talking to Nirgon or Heartbrand, Holo is just a poor misunderstood guild that was provoked into acting like douchebags in game. If you talk to Cast or Stasis (or pretty much any other member of the guild), Holo are pvp badasses that are proud of their reputation for being griefers. You can't have it both ways. Holo is a griefing guild, they kill, corpse camp, and bind camp people unprovoked and have always done so. I know this because I gave every guild a fair chance, including Holo, right from the beginning of the server, and only decided a guild was KOS after I witnessed a pattern of griefing from their members. Why do you think your guild is so appealing to people like Cast or Slathar? Just to give an example, a while ago when Spear was still around some Holo idiots attacked us unprovoked, got their asses kicked, and then tried to corpse camp us later when we died to mobs (while they weren't even in zone). We resolved this by killing them again, but the point is they CC'd us when they were the ones who started shit in the first place. Stuff like this happens all the time with Holo. Are you going to tell me that corpse camping isn't griefing?
If you want to be a griefing guild, that's fine (although you probably have issues if you find that "fun"), just don't lie about it.