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Originally Posted by kazroth
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So the same thing happened to you in WoW that happens in EQ, but you enjoyed it more?
I dunno man, I'm not really sure what your argument is here. Getting ganked is getting ganked, no matter the numbers.
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It's entirely an opinion thing - but my argument is that eq pvp is more conducive to creating douchebaggery.
Think of it this way - if you lose a fight in EQ PvP, the time loss is fairly substantial - so you have higher incentive to find protection from ganking, i.e. running with a consistent group or gang warfare. Likewise, you know that ganking or griefing others is a substantial loss for them, and corpse retrieval is equally as difficult, so the incentive is higher for jerks to corpse camp because they know it causes even more "pain" (loosely speaking).
Similarly, the incentive to be prepared for pvp constantly is much higher. You can't just log in and do something, you have to log in and be connected to a guild for your very survival - again, totally an opinion thing, but I find this detrimental in pvp, beneficial in pve, which is why I also agree with the post by envino in the other thread - just not for the pride-fest that pvp always is.
So if you're in the king of the hill guild and someone griefs you even once, you can grief their asses right off the server. You actually have the power to systematically destroy someone else's playtime. So those who actually do not have or choose to ignore the natural "do unto others" mentality tend to rise to the top - those who don't give a crap about anything except winning.
In WoW it was much harder to corpse camp to any real avail, and deaths didn't mean that much. So ganking someone was no big deal, kind of like getting hit by a bicycle as opposed to a truck.
So in one sense, there's less at stake in WoW PvP. You get beaten, no biggie. Doesn't take up too much of your time once you lose and you're back in the action.
It's the same principle behind why hardcore/permadeath is kind of a silly concept for a pvp mmo. Too much at stake.