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Old 03-17-2012, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The first "exploiting" started when Vesica Dei decided to use this against us in Veeshan's Peak. Memory blur on live never caused a mob to heal to 100%, in fact, because of the spellfiles here- Vox doesn't even complete heal to 100%. Vox can only cast the cleric version of complete heal which is 7500 hp instead of the 32khp it should be right now. On live, when Vox CH'd, it was a MUCH bigger deal than it was here.
Your own guild was the first to use Memory Blur but it wasn't with the intent to CH Talendor. It was to reset the fucking encounter log. Blurring Dragons to full health is bullshit even in VP but at the same time you brought that shitstorm on yourselves.

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Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
For us, shit going through walls is a pain in the ass, we don't like it, we'd prefer it came normally but even in normal pull locations you still have dragons warp behind you and AE your entire raid for no reason. We do not want this, we want all pulls to follow pathing, and the only reason TMO went to that ledge was because we were being literally terrorized by Vesica Dei with a known game exploit.

This exploit is currently fixed pending patch.

and fighting an exploit with an exploit? Hell no, it was nothing like that. Plenty of the dragons path normally onto the ledge, it simply depends on where in the zone they are located. They have always AE'd, we have fraps to prove it- they have always been able to hit our players when they are next to them, and as some people have pointed out in the past. We can simply dogwalk mobs to the ledge and make them come up without pathing through the walls. It never seemed like a problem to us because with our pull strategy. (Which is entirely legitimate) - We never get adds anyways.

The reason we weren't punished? Because it wasn't wrong until they told us not to do it, not because it was an exploit- because they simply did not believe it was the way they wanted VP to be used on their server- and when they did we complied.
Your pull strategy is entirely legitimate?

Are you fucking kidding me?

Pulling a Dragon through a shit ton of other wurms and not having them assist just because you've got hide or invis up? The only way this was ever possible on live was if there were separate factions involved. All mobs in VP should be on Ring of Scale and therefore should all be assisting.

To say this isn't an abuse of the way things work on this server is stupid. I'm sure Nilbog thinks its completely legitimate that you are able to pull a Dragon anywhere you want in Veeshan's Peak just because there aren't any see invis mobs in the way and you've got hide/invis. Give me a fucking break.

Look at these videos from Triton:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92845512389709

Here they are doing Hoshkar and fighting him in his lair.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...22420355221407

Fighting Phara Dar against the back wall outside of the double doors. They even have a wurm back there too but I suppose thats just for shits and giggles. Do you honestly think they were too stupid to figure out that it was possible to PULL THE DRAGONS ANYWHERE IN THE FUCKING ZONE if that was even remotely possible????????? This is probably two or three months after Velious was released too so they had plenty of time to figure out what they could and couldn't do.

Doesn't matter what guild is on top, same thing happens every time. Everyone abuses stuff and never posts the bugs on the forum until one of three things happens:

1) You get told to stop by a Guide/GM

2) Another guild uses the same tactic/exploit on you

3) Someone else posts the bug on the forum