Agreed, the moves FF has made the last few weeks, maintaining their membership without a lot of turnover,and the same officers as when they started the server... If they just snatched a few of Holo's roleplayers and avoided their mouthplayers, they could provide a real challenge sooner than later.
Holo's got a few individuals with clean whistles worth pulling away, they are just so poorly lead and disorganized and stricken with loyalty that goes back to a nostalgia of them being powerful on 50pop servers.
All indicators point to FF being a much stronger long term presence on the server than Holo, which has really been operating on board fumes since the loss of their core and massive inactivity due to knowing there's nothing to log on and do nor will the leaders attempt to form a raid to counter a Nihilum raid.
Gotta be crazy boring logging in and seeing 20 of your mates online, 20 Nihilum in fear, and still not have anyone willing to organize you to go in and fight over it.
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