O this is going to be fun!
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Rotations come about when two guilds legitimately are capable of engaging and downing a raid target/zone and the time/energy investment becomes too much to keep the heightened state of competition sustained indefinitely, ala camping at Trakanon ledge every 3 days.
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Like TMO is forcing VD to do right now (and vice versa?) The OP directly addresses this.
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Without proving to the server or themselves that VD is capable of killing a dragon in VP through legitimate competition or even simply asking "hey we have x number of keys and we would like to try a VP dragon please give us one shot uncontested to see if we can stand up to it and maybe we can talk later about a rotation".
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Cold has been asking for a VP rotation for some time. Zeelot has been stonewalling her. If she would get a better response by asking for a single shot, I'm sure we will take that avenue to "prove" ourselves as many of your members insist.
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There are several VD members in this thread that have asked what TMO will do to make the server a better place, when they should be asking that question of themselves before asking anyone else.
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VD forced an open Ragefire agreement that TMO nearly ignored (after agreeing to it). TMO wanted a rotation when they were suspended, but then dropped the topic immediately after their raid suspension was dropped early. VD even submitted an updated Ragefire bug report when the bug fix was found to not be implemented the way it should have been.
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VD had a chance to set a new tone for the raid scene of P99 with the upsetting of the end game balance by the departure of IB, but instead has resorted to "if I beat you up enough, then you'll like me attitude".
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While you were raid suspended, TMO could have stayed out of VP. However, they griefed VD in VP even when they were not allowed to kill the dragons themselves. If you wanted to change the tone of the raid scene, you would have not interfered when you could not have gained anything from the interference anyways. You griefed VD purely out of hatred.
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Two weeks ago when the top two guilds at the time were on vacation, VD instead of sharing dragons and bosses, like they now request, went and claimed all of them for themselves and in the process upsetting the other 3 raiding guilds through potentially questionable raid situations.
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VD zoned their Gorenaire puller when it appeared a question of FTE might arise. Taken was in Skyfire for an hour and a half before VD showed up to compete against them for Talendor. Even after we showed up, VD did not pull Talendor until after Taken had wiped. VD also watched as TMO mages CoH'ed Taken/BDA/Divinity (I can't remember which guild(s)) down into the lair to compete against us for Trak. Please point me to any examples of raid disputes that arose from VD during the week TMO/IB were not competition.
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If you want respect, you first need to give respect.
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Pot, meet kettle.