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Originally Posted by Lanuven
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Sad thing is this rotation will never even be considered seriously as long as VD is pulling their crap membluring dragons that have already been engaged. FTE is FTE. Leave it alone if someone else is fighting it.
As far as that goes, why hasnt a GM intervened in this exploit ? This is clearly not classic and is still being used to grief other guilds ?
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I'm impressed with the capability that VD has shown, as a raid force, in the last few months on their own, but suddenly becoming the #2 guild on the server due to a departure of one of the top raiding guilds does not automatically entitle a guild to a rotation. I understand that VD has accomplished all of the raids outside of VP on their own and from being aligned with TR/IB, as a joint raid force. I do not doubt VD would be #2 now even without the prior alliance. VD has legitimately gathered forces faster and beaten TMO to several targets or happened to be in the right place at the right time, just like TMO and IB in the past, when multiple targets pop in quick succession. Such is raiding life on a non-instanced, variance-timer server.
Rotations come about when two guilds legitimately are capable of engaging and downing a raid target/zone and the time/energy investment becomes too much to keep the heightened state of competition sustained indefinitely, ala camping at Trakanon ledge every 3 days.
Without proving to the server or themselves that VD is capable of killing a dragon in VP through legitimate competition or even simply asking "hey we have x number of keys and we would like to try a VP dragon please give us one shot uncontested to see if we can stand up to it and maybe we can talk later about a rotation". From the previous posts above, VD essentially demands(ed) a VP rotation be installed with no grounds on which to base their ability to handle such a target besides having acquired x number of VP keys. When met with the lack of the response VD desired, VD set forth and implemented a plan to massively grief and bully the opposing guild into accepting a rotation by way of using at best a disreputable tactic, or most likely what will be deemed an exploit/broken game mechanic. (I'm not commenting one way or the other about the Talendor incident, I was not at that particular raid and only know that the GMs have since said that all past raid petitions that were unanswered were dismissed and everyone to move forward and start fresh.)
There are several VD members in this thread that have asked what TMO will do to make the server a better place, when they should be asking that question of themselves before asking anyone else.
VD had a chance to set a new tone for the raid scene of P99 with the upsetting of the end game balance by the departure of IB, but instead has resorted to "if I beat you up enough, then you'll like me attitude". Two weeks ago when the top two guilds at the time were on vacation, VD instead of sharing dragons and bosses, like they now request, went and claimed all of them for themselves and in the process upsetting the other 3 raiding guilds through potentially questionable raid situations.
If you want respect, you first need to give respect.