One last thing so I can complete the dreaded triple post. I'm a pretty casual guy. I feel less and less like even logging in to the raid scene right now. But in general Vesica Dei has morphed into a serious raid guild. I'm just eyeballing our raid attendance tracker, but we have ~45 people in the black, i.e. 35% raid attendance, and we just got about 10 more people from IB. We have over 50 people with Veeshan's Peak keys now. For better or worse, VD is not a casual raid guild any more.
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