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Old 02-22-2012, 12:56 PM
Nirgon Nirgon is offline
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The real answer is there's training you can enforce and training you can't (read on). We need rules that we can expect to be enforced with consistency, read on...


I started on this road when the server launched.

Rules should be as follows in raid zones:
- Any intentional act that causes an NPC to kill another player without the intention of PvP and involving the player in question aggroing the mob scoring the kill is training.
- Training should result in a first time and immediate month suspension. A permanent ban with no grace period following. It will take one or two people getting Amelinda'd or Sirken'd and this will sink in, believe it.
- Raiding past a certain hour should be FFA. Let's be honest, it's not fair to the staff to have to be on every day of the week at 3-4am to try and police things. You should probably be asleep anyway.

The goal here is to have an ENFORCEABLE AND CONSISTENT set of rules. Let's not try to make rules that cannot be consistently enforced. AKA: Well they trained us at 4:22am. Really?

That said, and as outlined above, a very hard first time punishment to make examples of individuals caught doing it. One of two things will happen: people will wake up and smell the coffee and be mature or they will put in the "well I don't care anymore Jihad" hat and get themselves all banned off the server with a "well fuck this place anyways" attitude. Good riddance.

I'd also advocate (if it does not already exist) some way of beefing up the logging to support claims of training.

Let's open this to unbiased discussion and try to hammer out something we can agree on, do not cite specific examples or troll..