Then if its a single group mob and has been ran that way, how can a bard and druid claim that camp. They can't clear, and they surely can't duo it. Then how is it awarded their camp? It's even falling back on " If you can kill the mob in question with your force" is the issue and how it was ruled.
So if we go by how the precedence on this is, a bard and druid can camp Phini and claim camp whenever, yet it's 100% fact they can't kill him. That is the issue. I also know it was considered a raid mob on this site a year ago and that is outdated.
I will tell you how it would/could have went down
TMO claims Phini with 1 Druid 1 bard. This duo can't kill him whatsoever. Ruled in favor and awarded his spawn due to being there first, even though they can't kill him, and IB/VD have over 10 people.
Or
VD Necro/Mage duo is preped to kill him. Group of 10 TMO zone in and petition it's a raid encounter and awarded to TMO.
It's happened at Fire Giants and King Tranix. Decisions were changed on the spot two different times.
I will agree from what my understanding is when Amelinda was told TMO was there, and was getting shit from everyone and she said fuck it, people who were here first got it that should have been the end of it. I don't blame her for how she ruled, I just think it set's a bad precedence going forward. I do agree once Amelinda said it was TMO's anyone from VD who still engaged was wrong, I stated it in guild chat and in our own forums.
tl/dr
TMO didn't have the force there to claim it due to Druid and Bard not being able to duo him. VD force did. Ruling went against Raid and Group rules that your force have to be able to kill said target. IB/VD members had loot removed within 24 hours if not sooner. Yet your guild engaged on a inny who had FTE by IB/VD and ninja looted, and nothing has been done about it in like two weeks.
If things are going to play out, play them out on equal grounds.
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