Your contention is,
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Originally Posted by Rais
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Yes it was nerfed over a period of time in different waves. I'm glad you keep stating that it was nerfed more than once. Kinda tells you how many different things were changed with it.
Not all the nerfs were in patches.
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That because within a period of 6 weeks additional changes were made to
continue to nerf the imbalance, therefore it should follow a timeline related to 1999 rather than removing the imbalances that were ultimately identified PRIOR to kunark launch? What are you smoking.
Here's 9/28 patchnote that is specifically put in to begin correcting the glaring imbalanced pet, and again if you click my original link from 6 weeks later, you'll see an additional two nerfs have been listed against the pet by Elderan.
Sept 28, 1999: remove ability to give mistwalker hp buff
Nov 17, 1999:
1) can no longer rune pet
2) pet essentially poofs after one round
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September 28, 1999
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General Enhancements
- A Yes/No request window is now brought up when ever turning in the PK
note to the Priest of Discord.
- It is now possible to manually reorganize icons within the spell
book. This may be performed by right-clicking on the currently placed
icon (the icon will then be highlighted), then right-clicking on the
desired slot you wish to move it.
- Pet damage inflicted during PvP combat has been slightly reduced.
- It is now possible to place items marked as "No Drop" in the bank.
- NPC corpses will only remain for 8 minutes, even while looting.
- If a party member goes link-dead, the remaining members will be
notified.
- Pets with less than 20 hit points cannot receive hit point buffs.
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Yes that is incredibly difficult to understand. Imbalance is identified, proper changes are implemented on test/live servers until the ultimate fix is determined. Verant was notorious for not listing actual changes in the changelogs, which is why when people try to argue over classic era shit using kunark/velious era reasoning it's ridiculous. Every day items and procs and spells were changing without citation.
This isn't 1999, we know what the imbalances are and how to correct them. Back in June-July '99 when few guilds began killing Vox, they had to allow time to develop understanding and implement fixes to clearly broken pieces of their game.
Here is the reason it was specifically listed in the patch notes for February 2000:
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I was asked by a developer whilst we were in Plane of Sky how
we were planning on killing the mob, I explained the plan
detailed above, Mistwalker was subsequently nerfed 2 days
later after confirming the plans efficacy.
I apologize for the inconvenience, as I've actually nerfed my
own guilds efficacy a bit with this but I suppose it was for
the 'greater good.'
Furor Planedefiler
Guildmaster of the Fires of Heaven, Veeshan
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The proc rate was hotpatched into being near useless while they continued to find a solution to an exploitable, imbalanced item. How many prime examples could we pick out from that time period and have no implementation on this server.
Take egg shaped pumices for example, how have they been implemented here?
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Originally Posted by Bockscar
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They're removed from red99 in the name of balance. Storebought instant dispel wrecks PvP completely. It was the one non-classic thing that was unanimously requested and approved. Egg-shaped Pumice is different from Crystallized Pumice, the one with a cast time, which is still there. Unlimited instant dispel was not part of anyone's toolset, it was beyond broken. Removing them from red99 is justifiable because they were removed from live fairly early.
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So while you will continue to pontificate the first proc version of an imbalanced (and subsequently rebalanced) item, I will continue to tell you the only version of this sword that should be (and currently is) on this server is a classic era version and you graciously included the link for us:
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Originally Posted by Rais
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Start using your brain-
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Originally Posted by Rais
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We all know it was nerfed a few months after they started to be dropped.
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This is clearly not true as Nizzarr thought it was kunark era (clearly never played in 1999). However, the bigger response to that is
..if you know it was nerfed shortly after it was introduced to the hundreds of thousands of players circa 1999 and deemed imbalanced, why would you think that version should ever be allowed on a PVP server? Are you going to bring up Guise of Deceivers as your next item to say
"BUT, BUT, BUT LOOK! We followed this item timeline!!", Christ save you.