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Originally Posted by azeth
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the only reason i disagree with the article is because we, including myself, do not intentionally celebrate the events the article is condemning. the holiday may have originated in that fashion, but americans are only celebrating family time and a day off from work.
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Yeah - it's funny when people think they're making some poignant, intellectual point by pointing out that some tradition has some dark associations and therefore somehow it's 100% integrated into that dark association.
"Remember, when you're just eating Turkey and hugging your family that you haven't seen since last Christmas, you're actually drinking the blood of the natives of the land and spitting on their graves. Americans should change the holiday into a day of mourning where everyone cuts themselves and weeps over how horrible they are because their ancestors did something evil."
I think the problem is the author just has an extra large stick up his butt.
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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad
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That guy is about as "far left" as Mr. Rogers.
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That's a bit of a misstatement - he's definitely left-leaning, but not all that much. It's just viewing history within a certain scope without putting blinders on or idealizing historical figures. Some of his #'s are off, though.
Plenty of Libertarians also think Abe Lincoln was one of the worst presidents in history. I'm sympathetic to the view because when you really dig at all the expanses of power Abe used - most without the real intent of "freeing the slaves" or enhancing liberty. He just wanted to maintain the union, even if by force. Hitler praised Lincoln for recognizing, as he believed, that the Union was the Father and the States were its children and therefore subject to it - not vice versa. Lincoln was a very early Fascist in a tremendous amount of ways. And he paved the road for so many after him...