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Originally Posted by Samoht
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Fact: nobody alive today participated in killing the Indians under the premise of Manifest Destiny. Therefore, we cannot be held accountable for the actions of those that did.
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True, and in this day and age i doubt many do
most take part in the thanksgiving holiday as just another american holiday
ie, like anyone else.. its an excuse for the day off and have a big meal with family
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Originally Posted by Samoht
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Truthfully, the theme of this holiday is moving away from pilgrims and Indians, anyway.
Today, it's about family and tradition and God.
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To me thanksgiving seems to be merging itself in closer to christmas year after year versus staying strictly an american holiday
1) you say grace before the meal
2) you give thanks to god for w/e
3) you dress up as if your going to church lol
4) xmas music starts!
Im suprised the church hasnt found a way in on this and put their spin on it yet
America has to many holidays imo, alot of people dont even understand or know exactly what half of them mean.. or even care
there is a holiday at least once a month and we practically have a holiday for everything under the sun eg, mothers day/fathers day and a flurry of others (international womens day really?)
then you also add in anniversaries/birthdays and everything family inbetween and its no wonder people are left with a vague idea of what holidays are about
imo, the ultimate goal is to: spend spend spend fuck relevance
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Originally Posted by Uthgaard
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Once you've seen enough whiny bitches, they tend to get a bit predictable.
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imo, predictability can be flipped when discussing history
to quote the article as an example:
the world's great powers achieved "greatness" through criminal brutality on a grand scale is not news, of course. That those same societies are reluctant to highlight this history of barbarism also is predictable
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Originally Posted by MrSparkle001
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Sounds like a bunch of whining by the losing side to me, to purposely put it bluntly.
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I dont see anything in that article to indicate that Robert Jenson is native american
As a native american i dont really care
i dont hold or play the history card because of something that happened generations ago.
and under that same reasoning i dont expect people to play the apology card
or for anyone to feel the need to express remorse/shame/guilt
I will continue to celebrate thanksgiving under the premise of 2 parties sharing a meal. which is what i will be doing
I wont do anything for Columbus Day tho besides take the day off like everyone else
ya'll can celebrate that one and do whatever it is you do