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Originally Posted by JohnPublic
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Pyro, when you zone in there is nothing "behind you and to the left." It is blank space, thus my confusion. Also, I saw where a GM had already stated that he didn't pull the mob, but was confused as to whether or not they had had to spawn him.
I have nothing against end game guilds, I've been there myself. The concerns that people are raising do seem valid given the circumstances:
1. Planes were accessed and afterwards closed.
2. Nagafen was killed by 17 people without bard resists.
3. Mayong was never once killed on live.
I'm not saying that anything wrong has happened, just that there have been a series of events that do not accurately reflect the original live experience after a month and a half. These events, combined with the fact that GMs are playing amongst us have people raising legitimate questions. I do think, though, that the GMs have answered those questions satisfactorily and are doing a great job of creating a near-to-perfect replication of the original game.
I honestly don't understand why anyone is bringing specific guilds into this discussion. I, and I think many of the other posters are simply concerned with the game being as true to the original as possible.
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This is the kind of discussion that needs to take place, and more importantly, needs to be listened to.
While some players are always going to be trolling and whining, the administration does at time seem less than professional in their conduct as well. There is a disconcerting unwillingness to even so much as agree to listen to any of the concerns brought up in any thread I've read so far. In many cases, the concerns are valid on the bottom, just not brought up in a very constructive manner.
From an unbiased onlooker's perspective, things do not look fair. Things like letting people keep gear from zones that should not be available yet when others are simultaneously having their items from quests that should not be available yet taken away. Things like every single noteworthy event being affected in some way by GM activity or presence.
The administrative staff needs to be very careful how they appear to the community. You need to do one of two things: stop being around whenever a specific group of players do things, or stop coming off as excessively defensive when the inevitable questions begin. Anyone who knows the first thing about running a service for others would realize that transparency and trust is the most important thing, so when little is done to maintain this, it can come as no surprise that people get suspicious.
I won't go into specific cases because I don't have much to say about them, but the facts involved in most of the important events that have transpired on the server so far are questionable enough to rouse suspicion in someone who by all rights shouldn't even care. Even after filtering through the baseless accusations and taking into consideration only the accounts that were confirmed to be true, each event has had its fair share of dubious circumstances. I think more could be done to deliberately avoid that kind of thing, such as by not placing controversial content and gear into the game so early in the server's life, or by not constantly having GMs accompany certain groups of players regardless of what the GM does; if nothing else, at least stay invisible and out of the way so that your presence affects noone but yourself.
If you don't take the necessary precautions to appear trustworthy and neutral, you should expect other players to suspect something as they have every right and reason to. Being overly defensive to the point of passive-aggressiveness only enforces the notion that something might be up.