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Originally Posted by Shiftin
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Stuff about unions and American Pride
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No shit. It's a combination of government and corporate pandering to the population and to each other. It's a complicated web. Frankly I don't support the majority of unions because they are just as much a problem, but I have also seen when and how they do make a positive impact.
It's not as simple as you think. Yeah, some people are p. dumb when it comes to this shit but a lot of people realize that society at large is just as responsible for the big fuckup we're in as much as the government, private and public companies, as well as the investment trading racket on Wall St.
Basically:
This shit is fucked and we're all pissed.
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Originally Posted by Slathar
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insufferable morons who brag about going to a GA like you are what turns 'mainstream' people off and prevents it from becoming a populist movement
in conclusion shut the fuck up
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honestly I do have to agree. A lot of people feel alienated because of the on-site GAs but in that same regard those that also choose no further action than to complain aren't helping and probably would make GAs last for hours on end because they refuse to educate themselves on the issues before going to vote on them. That's happened at the GA, here. Unnecessary and inappropriate blocks is kinda dicks, imo. GAs are meant to vote and in my opinion offer a local site with which to communicate ideas or assign tasks. It can also be done online and therefore should be an option. Considering, however, that not everyone has a computer, those that take the trouble to go down to an occupation should not be marginalized.
As part of the communications group I helped propose what should be a simple item: announce upcoming proposals 24 hours in advance and post them online if you can. That way the people that NEED to vote as a block or discuss it further can do so face to face. This allows people to not have to worry about GA every fucking night, which allows people to part-time it when necessary. Being at GA is not the end all of the entire movement.