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I see training as "I'm (or we're) not good enough to pvp you, so I'm going to go above and beyond my (our) personal ability to stop you"

Since trains don't kill trains, and good trainers don't get trained, what kills a trainer? Hackers. Training encourages hacking, both because it makes it easier to train, and makes it easier to stop trainers. I know there's an anti hacking policy and detection system in, but train-wars are just ASKING for hackers to come to the surface. Maybe that'll be a good thing, and they'll finally get caught? I dunno.

Secondly, I just know from experience (I raided on Sullon Zek) that bard speed, DA, Rez-Box training is some serious bullshit. There's too many good abilities in the game that make training way too effective to just make it legal across the board. At LEAST keep rez-box training illegal.

In short, I feel like "working it out amongst ourselves" would be actually fighting each other like men, not relying on PvE to do your PvPing for you like a bunch of pussies.

Edit: And about the argument about making it easier on GM's, do you think making training legal on SZ made it so the GM's had to pay less attention to the server? HELL NO! It eventually became a major factor in what drove them to ignore SZ completely, and hacking to become rampant and nearly unchecked, because people were always crying wolf about hackers training them, or petitioning that it was OP, or just bleeding in general. Making training legal will NOT, confirmed WILL NOT, make things easier on the GMs.