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Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is delayed a bit. I've been... uhh... preoccupied with something else.

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Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really like this idea, but people I talk to and things that I've read generally signal the exact opposite. Means that have cropped up throughout the supernetz for exposing your musical talents (or lack thereof) to the world are, as I understand it, to be avoided like the plague. Putting your ballads up on Myspace Music or some such is an awesome way to be totally ignored. The incentive to hit the road and craft a unique performance has gone up quite a bit. *shrug*

See: Die Antwoord

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wha? If you're saying pop music is very old, I'd say you're making a no-no that my Asian Civilization prof would go nuts over: Projecting into history. Pop music didn't exist until something was actually called "Pop music". Patronage is something more akin the National Endowment for the Arts, which in fact is probably more likely to fund Alvin Lucien making music using a long wire suspended inside of a cathedral than it is to fund John Mayer's new hit single.

Eh, I see what you mean, but I think you're sidestepping my point, which was that music was tailored for the audience, rather than being purely from the soul.

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going to have to counter-bullshit this bullshit. Maybe you looked at the Billboard ratings and noticed that within the last decade the groups for tweens have started to claim the charts. That's not the entire picture, though:
consumers over 45 accounted for 25% of music sales last year, more than twice the share of any other age group, and up from 15% a decade ago.
three-quarters of digital music buyers are age 25 and older

Yeah.. Did you know that seventy three percent of all statistics are made up on the spot 93% of the time?
This trend started really with the Beatles, and really hasn't stopped since. All you have to do is examine the path of musical evolution to see the truth in that, but if you google REEEEEEAAAALLY hard, you can find out I'm on target that way too.

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The last part is certainly true, but nobody really knows who NSync is.

Thou shalt not argue semantics with me, sir! I see you!

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imported media comes in through a miniscule heavily regulated tube. Backstreet Boys from the US and Westlife from Europe. There are guys in their twenties who have totally legit (fully heterosexual) love for both of those groups, I shit you not.

Those men are hiding something about themselves.

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see what you mean this time, but being a patron just meant you were a sort of paid political mouthpiece for a specific elite audience, it didn't mean that everyone else played for free (though some surely did). It's similar but different in at least one major aspect: patron artists sold out for an elite audience, while pop artists sell out for the masses. Flip flop!

Difference noted. They do share a common thread, however.

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like this paragraph the most, maybe I just wasn't concise enough. Limiting folks to two groups sounds like one of them "false dichotomies", and however many groups you can think up I don't believe they are mutually exclusive, even if it appears so today more than ever.

Eh, it's not an either or, it was 2 examples. ..and I've studied enough about "classical" and "folk" (not woody guthrie, but like irish folk music or gypsy music), to know that there is a HUGE difference in where they were coming from in both making and performing music, and the differences in the audiences. You sidestep a lot you slippery snake!

*whew*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQukw8DkaY