This is delayed a bit. I've been... uhh... preoccupied with something else.
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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad
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The interwebz is doing a good job at forcing change to the model. More amateurs are now able to get their music out. They've always been able to, but the record corps have been forcing them out of the game for some decades now. Something had to give, eh?
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I really like this idea, but people I talk to and things that I've read generally signal the exact opposite. Means that have cropped up throughout the supernetz for exposing your musical talents (or lack thereof) to the world are, as I understand it, to be avoided like the plague. Putting your ballads up on Myspace Music or some such is an awesome way to be totally ignored. The incentive to hit the road and craft a unique performance has gone up quite a bit. *shrug*
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Wha? If you're saying pop music is very old, I'd say you're making a no-no that my Asian Civilization prof would go nuts over: Projecting into history. Pop music didn't exist until something was actually called "Pop music". Patronage is something more akin the National Endowment for the Arts, which in fact is probably more likely to fund Alvin Lucien making music using a long wire suspended inside of a cathedral than it is to fund John Mayer's new hit single.
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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad
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Bullshit. Go look at any reliable source of demographics for who consumes the most albums. Go look at what bands sell the most records across the world. It's all teeny bop bullshit dude. I have some education in this subject, and I can definitely assure you that even some of the "harder" bands out there cater their music to a teeny-bop audience.
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Going to have to counter-bullshit this bullshit. Maybe you looked at the Billboard ratings and noticed that within the last decade the groups for tweens have started to claim the charts. That's not the entire picture, though:
consumers over 45 accounted for 25% of music sales last year, more than twice the share of any other age group, and up from 15% a decade ago.
three-quarters of digital music buyers are age 25 and older
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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad
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..but people in China know who NSync is, and I guarantee you that for every underground band coming out with dope shit on their own, there are a dozen chinese boy bands who are trying to use the same model to get ahead in life.
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The last part is certainly true, but nobody really knows who NSync is. Imported media comes in through a miniscule heavily regulated tube. Backstreet Boys from the US and Westlife from Europe. There are guys in their twenties who have totally legit (fully heterosexual) love for both of those groups, I shit you not.
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I see what you mean this time, but being a patron just meant you were a sort of paid political mouthpiece for a specific elite audience, it didn't mean that everyone else played for free (though some surely did). It's similar but different in at least one major aspect: patron artists sold out for an elite audience, while pop artists sell out for the masses. Flip flop!
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Disagree. Concert halls have always been filled with a large amount of revellers out to show off their style/cash/women, and to drink and have a good time. Likewise, pubs have always been full of dancers/revelers/drinkers who don't really give a shit about the skill of the musicians playing for a couple coppers. There have always been true appreciators of skill, but these have ALWAYS been far outweighed by people who enjoy music for the atmosphere and a chance at grabbing some ass.
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I like this paragraph the most, maybe I just wasn't concise enough. Limiting folks to two groups sounds like one of them "false dichotomies", and however many groups you can think up I don't believe they are mutually exclusive, even if it appears so today more than ever.
*whew*
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