Pretty sure you're missing the point Alarti.
For example.
TMO used to be able to kill Gorenaire, but now they can't. Used to doesn't matter, what matters now is they wipe on him with 54 people. This is proven by last night.
TMO used to get Trakanon kills, now the best they can pull off is 1 out of every 4. This was proven by the last 14 days.
See? It all depends on what time frame you look at, without any sort of statue of limitations, it's going to remain circular.
There's 1 statistic that is undeniable and incapable of being twisted. (Although you may make it a guild goal to twist public opinion)
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And that's simply we've never had an active member of TR leave the guild to join a competitive guild, including TMO. Ever. Between the two guilds, that's about the only concrete difference. I'm not going to correlation/causation any reasons, but facts are facts.