[vinx]

I will add tho, that most RP and purist guilds struggle with progression
usually from low numbers (cept darks with min/max races)

Classic is doable (minus sky) and kunark is doable (minus VP)
by velious+ really need to re-evaluate
and this is where these guilds start to x-team, either in ranks or thru alliances
and pretty much died out in the pop era (cept the real diehards)