All we are saying is that, item loot was removed, and VZTZ went from around 40 some odd total pop. with 2 boxxers, to around 200, and reached 300 at its peak. Item loot has been introduced two seperate times and alot of players stopped playing. I personally did quite well and acquired alot of raid/high end loots and it was super easy to farm/camp as a two boxxer if your lewt was snagged. I still think the pop. will be higher without item loot, and I'm a proponent of item loot.
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