[Bubbles]

I actually disagree with Giegue's assumption that TMO/TR would welcome more 'competition'. That said, i think he's spot on that any form of a compromise at all needs to leave all parties walking away from the table feeling they gained something for what they 'gave up'.

So what would TMO/TR stand to gain by giving in even the slightest?

Outside of Veeshan's Peak, i can't come up with anything. And i'm not thinking the powers that be are seriously going to make it come down to that.

Things are bad, they are going to get worse with epics, and we'll see how it shakes out.

My stance has never wavered. -> A second server is needed. Red99 is an option. Putting Beta back up is an option. Splitting p99 into two servers is an option (and completely, utterly classic), and just tossing up a new server from scratch starting at level one with either classic only progression or kunark enabled from day one.. is also an option.

Server split is the most interesting, would be interesting to see if TMO + TR would go one way with casual who don't care about raiding.. and Taken/Div/BDA/VD/Reclamation/etc would all dogpile the other direction.. Or if TR would go one way with TMO / BDA and TR would go the other with VD/ Div etc.. or some random swapping alike.. or whatever. Would make for some interesting forum banter, regardless.

But no matter what, A split would give us everything the player base needs : twice the targets, period. It's a high-end heavy server and the player base has little in common with the demographics and skill capability a typical server in 1999 had. This probably has been beaten to death, but it's the most valid of points.

The bottleneck of course is, we barely have the staff for one server, much less a surplus that would lend itself to having 2 servers at the same time running flawlessly.. No matter what the forum trolls think, the majority of the CSR job on p99 isn't solving dragon disputes, it's dealing with the normal day-to-day petitions and box-hunting, etc..