[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Not true mitic. The if you can't beat em join em only applies on a level playing field. If someone is deliberately using anything others don't have access to (and this covers more then just 3rd party programs) to give them an unfair advantage then it isn't level. We are talkin deliberate willful knowing acts. There is only one game in town as far as a classic eq emu server and there is no reason multiple guilds can't raid the same targets here. Your argument that obviously we are all impotent, ignorant, and incapable is a joke.

if you cant fight them with your own weapons use theirs then and camp bosses, do rotations 24/7 to keep them on track, use batphones and stop blaming them on the forums. the only thing you get out of this is showing your own incapacity not being able to get things done.

We aren't talking about batphones here, or players who track 24/7. This thread over the uproar isn't about that.

saying that TR is responsible for destroying others guilds or friendships is just another affirmation about your very own weakness.

To use underhanded or unscrupulous tactics in whatever form to maintain an edge is condemnable and if willful, deliberate, and completely knowingly why then yes, I can point the finger of judgement. The people who don't resort to these whatever means necessary tactics are the ones not giving in to weakness. Let me speak hypothetically (or non-hypothetically from some point of view). If guild A knows exactly what mob spawns when and because of that stays on top and uses the fact they get all the raid mobs then you are saying the other guilds must be ineffectual and it affirms their weakness and inability to compete? It isn't weakness to not submit to greed. It is weakness to give in to that greed (not in all cases I grant you) where loot matters more. And preying on that weakness is what happens. And if your ability to use this method relies on you having an unfair advantage we all just suck because we can't. People that are aware or experience unfairness and have chosen to leave are just weak and obviously incompetent mental morons who can't compete because they have the ability to sink to that level. And when some do sink to that level they're bad people who cheat and train and rant and flame.

i got teh solution!

enforce boss rotation on blue99
if you dont like that, join red99

Now that is what I have been saying all along. Enforce rules and play nice on PVE and if you want anything goes where you can you step on your opponent's throat by any means necessary then go PvP. Way it has always been hasn't it?


And Hasbinbad it is on this topic because it directly correlates. It keeps going off topic (or back on topic) because of the fact is is related. You cry to put down the flames and while I am with you in principle I am not with you to censor anything that might cry outrage at what has been going on apparently on this server. Questioning GM decisions should be a dead issue because that was posted by Rogean a while back but if people feel strongly about something they believe to be a moral or ethical issue you are going to hear about it. Forums are a place to do that are they not? And if you value your reputation perhaps you should not be part of the machine that leads people to feel such outrage.

Gms can check when and how often he used it. You know, perun is a monk and therefore not out pulling dragons, how is it an advantage for the raid if he knows where the mob is and not telling anyone?

Nedala I know what you mean but the statement is ignorant. The very notion that obviously monks don't pull is something new to me. Perhaps some don't but to think that because TR doesn't use their monks to pull doesn't mean that obviously this is how it is done. You also state that if he knows where the mob is he doesn't tell anyone. Yeah I am sure no one else gets the information or it isn't used to an advantage. I was thinking about this the other day and going to say this just for argument's sake because obviously I don't know if it actually happened. But I have played this game a long time and I have led and pulled raids at the 'top end' as you are for years earlier in my gaming. Zone a monk into fear and get all the information you want. You don't have to tell anyone where guild A is or what the situation is, especially if you're a raid leader. Just direct your raid to do such and such and none the wiser. Zone into EJ and know the other guild has Sev and where. Know exactly where their force is and exactly where to set up. And that is just if we assume no one got told. Hell (and I am about to speculate here merely because you made the point using seq gives no advantage) you could take it further if you know what loot a mob has you know whether to go for that raid target that day or go for another first. If you know dracoliche has 2 shaman hammers with CT wielding 4 darkwood trunks and Innoruuk has 2 mage staves and a necro book well that could have an advantage too. All that said I find it boggling that you obviously believe monks don't pull dragons duh. Besides the obvious tactical advantages that exist in certain situations and knowing it is more about the player's level of skill and experience then simply the class ( meaning a good paladin could do the job versus a monk that only knows auto attack) to just think that is how all monks play duh baffles me.