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Originally Posted by booter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, we know you have this fairness crusade to get TR raid suspended for two weeks, but that really isn't the topic of this thread at all. In fact, you're proving the OP's point by not going through the proper channels for it.

Of course it is. The rules are the rules and they should be enforced equally across the board. Your own guild is ignoring it's own rules as stated by your guild leader on these very boards. Development is completely ignoring the rules they put into place. You are also allowing the cheaters to re-app, and if they are part of the officer clique, they will enjoy plvling to get them back leading your raids ASAP. This has been proudly proclaimed in solidarity with your "pals".

I don't care what guild you are in. I don't care who your friends are. Rules and punishments have no bias. They are supposed to apply to everyone equally, regardless. 365 accounts caught cheating should = 365 accounts banned. Raid leaders caught cheating during a competitive raid should = raid suspension for offending guild. This should apply to any guild on the server. Period. No exceptions.

Apparently your guild cares more about loot than it's integrity. This was not always what IB claimed it stood for. Why yuor membership continues to circle the wagons is perplexing. Your reputation is in the toilet and you're just digging a deeper hole by defending your leadership who either knew about it or were too stupid to not realize it was happening right under their nose.

This thread is about HOW/WHERE you go about questioning GM decisions and how that affects the overall health of the server - it is not the place to actually DO that.

Start a new thread for this discussion if you honestly want it to go anywhere, instead of cluttering up this surprisingly constructive thread.

This thread is about Hasbinbad trying to sweep this under the rug because the facts surrounding the situation are incredibly embarrassing to his guild. I can guarantee if the roles were reversed and a TMO Officer was caught red handed using a 3rd party hack lile Perun was, HBB would be creating thread demanding TMO be disbanded immediately and Durison tarred and feathered.

The cheaters who will be joining us again soon won't be cheating anymore. They'll be caught and permanently removed if they do it again, since we know the staff can detect it. Does everyone agree that they should be able to play again? No. Are they going to be? Yes. Were there more variables to the staff's decision than most players probably realize? Most definitely.

This is a joke right? We're supposed to take you at your word? A guild who's raid leader cheats? A guild who's leader put people in positions of leadership who cheat? There is no possible way you can guarantee this. The only way to guarantee these cheaters never cheat again is to ban their accounts permanently. Problem solved.

Why you are associating yourself with people who cheat and are now defending them on the boards speaks volumes. Nobody gives a crap if they are "Your homeys". As far as the non cheating community is concerned, they are a disgrace.