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Originally Posted by Fraggle
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By your logic, using Tubban as an example, then all raid guilds should be suspended from raiding as per:
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Tubban was using MQ2 in LGuk while Dark Ascension were camping in Naggy's lair.. there was a dispute between DA and TR about who had 15 players on the spawn first. IT was found that Tubban was using MQ2 during this investigation. Tubban had nothing to do with the raid force in Nagafen's lair, nor did he provide DA any advantage as he never had anything to do with strategizing or other instruction, he showed up he played when he did.... All I really remember him raiding was sky but meh, that's beside the point.
The reason Dark Ascension was issued a second raid suspension due to Tubban using MQ2 was this: It was Dark Ascension's second offence of using third party programs within the guild in a span of 2 weeks. Koota had been caught two (2) weeks prior and Dark Ascension was raid suspended. When the GM's found Tubban cheating they said DA was "harboring cheaters". Nilbog came on to tell Durison that DA needed better recruiting standards and it was the fault of the guild again.
As a result Dark Ascension created a recruitment guild called Shadow Rising to appease the GM's. This guild consisted of recruits and alternate characters. Only main characters were allowed into Dark Ascension.
In essence, I believe the second raid suspension would not have been handed out had Dark Ascension not just been suspended from raiding for Koota's infraction. As per the reasoning provided.
A third suspension was also threatened when Dark Ascension beat TR on Dojorn in SKy and new rules were created on the spot about 15 on the spawn point for a NON-KOS mob. (THis point has been dealt with in a separate thread and has nothing to do with cheating but thought it was an interesting point).
During DA's raid suspension the first time, TR got a clean sweap of everything. When DA returned to raiding the next week, they got a clean sweap of everything. When DA was suspended on Tubban's infraction, TR got another clean sweap. TR was going through a rough patch and was having difficulty competing with DA at this time. A lot of their veteran member's had grown bored and people like Gwence/Alfie were getting banned for training.
There is a clear pattern here but I'll leave it to you to make your own conclusions.
Sworen