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Originally Posted by Envious
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And no, I'm not "cool" with the idea now. And I never raged about it.
The simply fact is that most of the people posting in these threads dont understand how to prolong the life of the server (beyond 3 months) and that is, basically, what I said on the VZ/TZ forums for YEARS.
Make it legit. GM intervention = doubts on legitimacy
Anyway, WB Rexx. And Kudos for being one of the 3 or 4 people that actually understand how to make this a legit long term PvP server.
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I think it's kind of silly how simple you find it all to be. I don't know if you have selective memory, but if you want to recap:
TZVZ did the item loot thing, people were rage quitting. TZVZ also did the no rules things, and again, the population went down. TZVZ took out item loot, the population soared by 200 + %. TZVZ dev's tried to get guild leaders together to form some sort of agreement, it worked for some time that way.
I think you're blaming the box losing population solely because of GM intervention, when in actuality, it was GM corruption, among many other reasons. And yes, the two distinctions are completely exclusive. GM intervention doesn't LEAD to corruption. Hiring people as guides previously invested in the player base leads to corruption.
Don't pretend to know anything about the success and failings of the box if you're only looking at part of the picture. I played that fucking thing for a long time along side of notably intelligent players. Searyx and Sirken (probably the only GM's who weren't corrupt, but perhaps made mistakes) tend to agree with most of the people on the boards here. You're making a bunch of claims and shouting them continuously-- that doesn't change your narrow scope.
And really, don't take blame off ourselves. A lot of us had quite some part in destroying the population. That environment was ridiculous for new players. People wanted yellow text under any circumstances. People were ruthless, and the population was mutilated because of it. I was the underdog, as per usual. It's not like I didn't hear people wanting to quit and eventually do so because of the shitty way that the server was run.
It's funny because I'd like to say that you have no frame of reference to be commenting on what rules should be in R99, but I cant. You do have a frame a reference, you just choose not to use it.