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Originally Posted by bcbrown
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This is a perfect explanation of "squelch point theory" as I currently understand it.
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It is not. Let us take a look at your last post on the "squelch point" theory:
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Originally Posted by bcbrown
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Excellent. Care to make a prediction? My prediction is that all three parses will be similar because at 200+ ac my 60 druid has passed the squelch point of the level 40 Shiel Glimmerspindle. If the no-shield test is worse than the other two, I'll update my understanding to include that shields provide an effect, even when worn in the back slot. If only the shield in secondary is better than the other two, I'll update my understanding to be that shields provide an effect, but only when worn in the secondary slot.
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From my understanding, you were trying to claim the "squelch point" is around 200 AC for Shiel Glimmerspindle. You believe that past the "squelch point", you get no noticeable gains:
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Oh, yes, I do mean that. Thanks for clarifying. My prediction is that this mob's squelch point is around 30, such that at any level and any AC above that you will get the same results. I think there's a fixed squelch point, and that this squelch point is lower than the Haynar cap of 55AC at level 55.
This is because there's already so few max hits, only 1.75%. I don't think it'll ever go below 1-2%. There's just no room for improvement left.
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Your idea that you will get no noticeable gains past the "squelch point" as you understand it is false based on the data in this thread:
Shadowknight - 1000 Hits from Shiel Glimmerspindle per test, No Shield
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100 AC Test - 52865 Total Damage Taken
200 AC Test - 41544 Total Damage Taken
300 AC Test - 35754 Total Damage Taken
Shaman - 1000 Hits from Shiel Glimmerspindle per test, No Shield
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100 AC Test - 53149 Total Damage Taken
200 AC Test - 41805 Total Damage Taken
300 AC Test - 39588 Total Damage Taken
Shadowknight - 1000 Hits from Shiel Glimmerspindle per test, 55 AC Shield
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351 AC Test - 33211Total Damage Taken
Shaman - 1000 Hits from Shiel Glimmerspindle per test, 23 AC Shield
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363 AC Test - 37110 Total Damage Taken
As you can see, I am still able to get noticeable damage reduction gains at 300 AC and past 300 AC on both classes. A Plate class like Shadowknight is getting larger gains than a Chain class like Shaman.
From your past posts, it is my understanding you have been trying to suggest that AC Softcaps do not exist, and the reduction in damage taken past a certain point (squelch point) is exclusively due to the non-linear nature of the AC mitigation formula. This is obviously false. Please do not try to claim you were simply suggesting the "squelch point" is the AC value at which the average roll on the D20 is 4 or less. Even in your example with the level 5 mob, A squelch point of 30 wouldn't be realistic for forcing the average roll on the D20 to 4 or less. This is because the Wrath value of a level 5 is something like 45. A Mitigation value of ~30 is not 4x larger than a Wrath value of 45.
In reality the AC mitigation formula has multiple ways to reduce the gains you get from AC:
1. The AC hardcap at low levels ((level * 6) + 25)
2. Class specific AC Softcaps
3. Class specific AC Softcap return values
4. Diminishing returns due to the non-linear nature of the AC Mitigation formula
It would be nice if you explained your "squelch point" theory in detail if you think I misunderstood something in your theory.
If you agree with everything I said regarding the AC mitigation formula, then there is no "squelch point" theory that you made up. We are just experiencing the reality of what Haynar already said exists.