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Originally Posted by kjs86z2
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nobody is going to do that to ensure their coth bot has a fancy stick
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I agree. I think people simply don't have the will to beat the farm crews, because most players don't care about Earth Staff. Even if farm crews disappeared tomorrow, it takes a long time for an Earth Staff to drop. You could get better raid items for other classes in the same time spent. Unfortunately Mage Epic is mostly just a toy/status symbol on P99.
Going back to the rules. Even when Mini's had the zone vacate rule, there was an exception for guilds:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...4&postcount=14
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If you are actively clearing hate trash and/or a Mini spawns as part of a Plane of Hate guild raid you don't have to port down and back up.
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So it seems like OP just has a large misunderstanding about the Hate rules in general. Guilds could easily do trash clears around Magi spawn if they wanted to, even before the Hate Mini rules were removed.