[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which makes your argument even more moronic (and you WERE talking about boxed accounts and how people play on live earlier — people routinely uses bots on those accounts, and of course it's happened here too).

The only way it would ever marginally make sense to have 18 SK's sit at the Idol camp when DPS racing is if they were botting: each of them on rotation being able to instantly Harm Touch the spawn every time to pops via the bot. Otherwise whoever's turn it is to HT could easily lose to anyone else who comes along and presses their button faster.

Even with cheating they still wouldn't be able to have an actual monopoly like people unclassically can on p99, because 18 people can't just sit there all the time. At some point most of them will need to get off those characters and actually go play the game. Without cheating it would just be an insane waste of resources. The smart guild management would be keeping 1 rogue there; double backstab will do enough damage most of the time. Sometimes you'll lose to other people because they click faster, but that's way better than idiotically having 18 people there and not competing for 17 other camps or doing other exp/quest stuff.

You need to learn to read people's posts, play P99 a bit more, and admit you are wrong sometimes.

As one simple example:

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At some point most of them will need to get off those characters...

This happens on P99 already without your rules. I said it multiple times already:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On P99, Idol camp has already changed hands plenty of times without your specific rules. Plenty of guilds on P99 pay DKP for services like camping Shiny Brass Idol. If the rules change, players will adapt. They always do.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even on P99, perma-camped camps have changed hands. I told you this before. Shiny Brass Idol camp was perma-camped for years, but it still changed hands. Sometimes people go afk, don't get a replacement, etc.

There is no reason to respond to your other points, as you won't actually read what I say.

Originally Posted by tiger32kw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread has gotten off topic with a bunch of "Actually..." responses to random stuff.

Stormfeather should be FTE. It is not a Placeholder camp. It follows the same cycle as Lodizal for the same quest in the same zone, which is FTE. Almost every other camp where the mob spawns after a duration without a PH is FTE. You aren't camping anything. You are waiting out a timer with a window.

I wouldn't mind if all camps on P99 were FTE to be honest. But it won't solve the problem of some people losing the FTE racee 30 times in a row. This does happen, and is the ultimate source of these kinds of threads. People are just annoyed that they aren't getting the loot the want. If the rules were changed to FTE, someone else would be complaining they can never get FTE.

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People will still show up trying to FTE to sell LR. You'll be stuck with a different flavor of the same problem.

Correct.