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Old 06-16-2026, 10:35 AM
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Some evidence of Harmony not being completely unresistible: "Harmony worked 90% of the time and never ever aggroed on failure" / "Harmony seems far superior to me, not only because it's AOE, but because it is resisted so seldom." / lots of talk here about occasional resists. I specifically remember needing to cast Harmony several times on a red con goblin in classic before it would stick.

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Is there any research or additional input about casting a lull type spell on a 50+ npc?
I haven't yet found a player precisely saying "lull resists 100% of the time on Level 50+ NPC's", but literally every post from a classic Enchanter or Cleric says "don't even bother trying to use these spells at high levels" - https://web.archive.org/web/20010207...ML/052139.html / https://web.archive.org/web/20010206...ML/003538.html / https://web.archive.org/web/20010823...c&f=9&t=005368

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Did low level lull type spells have level caps on what they could affect? For example, could a cleric cast the lowest level 'lull' spell on a level 40 npc, or would they need to cast calm or pacify for a chance to succeed?
There doesn't seem to be any level cap. Lots of talk about Pacify being a waste of mana and mainly using Lull (but both failing most of the time).

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Could bard lull (Kelin's Lugubrious Lament) work on mobs that cleric/ranger lulls couldn't?
I assume you've seen this thread, detailing almost everything that needs to be changed (the exception being damage spells, which were given lower resists specifically for players over level 50 - I didn't save the link where Abashi or Absor on the official forums posted about the change; I also randomly saw Atol's Spectral Shackles being patched to resist less).

Bard lull should work on all targets and cut the target's magic resist in half for the resist check, while having a minimum 6% resist chance at all levels. When searching through countless posts, Bards notably are not complaining about their lull song, in comparison to Enchanters and Clerics all calling their lull spells trash.
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