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Old 03-28-2026, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
From the peanut gallery, I like parsing against a mob that is a known constant level. Level variance makes such a massive difference. That said, I think keeping haste / ATK values equal is pretty important. For haste, you gotta raid, but for ATK, you should be able to normalize with buffs. If outdoors, doggo form is equivalent to Swiftwind iirc, or you can fudge it with SoN or AoB / Firefist / Grim Aura.
Parsing against a mob with a known constant level certainly helps remove some variation, but even parses against mobs with level variance can be useful as long as you acknowledge they'll be noisier. It probably takes something like a half hour per weaponset to get the margin of error below 1 DPS anyway, so none of these parses really should be treated as rock-solid anyway.

It also depends on what question you're trying to answer. I was trying to answer the question "for a 50s ranger is it worth upgrading from an EC 2-hander to swiftwind, and if so what mainhand do you need." For that question, a large part of the appeal of Swiftwind is the extra haste and ATK. Trying to normalize with buffs or gear swaps would obscure rather than clarify. For the same reason I don't think parsing against a level 5 mob provides much insight for this question, even though it's a useful target for something like proc rates or dodge/parry rates.

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Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Very good stuff!! Thanks for the notable contribution!!

I have some old Shady parses somewhere but of course can’t find them. He’s definitely an ego bruiser.
Thanks! You posted a pair of Shady parses here, which is where I got the idea. You had 47/48 DPS with 91% haste. Normalizing haste values from my parse, I would have 54 dps with bfg trueshot, 43 with bfg w/o disc, 36 with sboz/swiftwind, ~37-41 with spade.
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