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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist
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You want to reduce the odds of something affecting the the results. Theres really no reason to have sets with different hit amounts.
I request that your data sets in the future are the same number of hits. Or you can supply your logs.
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I don't want to fight over it and this seems pretty important to you so sure, I'll include a same-hitcount analysis of any experiments in this thread. I'm glad you're paying attention to methodology!
I'm more interested in discussing the potential implications if this experiment I'll run on Sunday ends up with equivalent results for all three parses.
Looking again at DSM's parses with 60 shaman:
level 60 Shaman 157 worn AC vs level 50 mob, 400 hits: 86.22
level 60 Shaman 177 worn AC vs level 50 mob, 400 hits: 83.24
level 60 Shaman 200 worn AC vs level 50 mob, 400 hits: 80.33
level 60 Shaman 217 worn AC vs level 50 mob, 400 hits: 75.57
level 60 Shaman 250 worn AC vs level 50 mob, 400 hits: 73.44
level 60 Shaman 300 worn AC vs level 50 mob, 400 hits: 73.61
level 60 Shaman 386 worn AC vs level 50 mob, 400 hits: 74.52
level 60 Shaman 411 worn AC (25 AC from shield) vs level 50 mob, 400 hits: 68.37
Shaman 60 207 AC vs level 50 mob, 800 hits: 78.18
Shaman 60 217 AC vs level 50 mob, 800 hits: 77.67
Shaman 60 227 AC vs level 50 mob, 800 hits: 76.51
Shaman 60 300 AC vs level 50 mob, 800 hits: 73.27
Shaman 60 386 AC vs level 50 mob, 800 hits: 73.28
The 800-hit parses don't seem to provide any evidence one way or the other, but that last 400-hit parse with 25 shield AC sure suggests shield AC can have an impact.
23 AC Test, 400 hits: 6.60
40 AC Test, 400 hits: 5.05
45 AC Test, 400 hits: 4.54
50 AC Test, 400 hits: 4.35
55 AC Test, 400 hits: 4.32
61 AC Test, 400 hits: 4.27
178 AC Test, 400 hits: 4.32
55 AC Test, 12 of this AC is from a shield, 400 hits: 4.03
190 AC, 12 of this AC is from a shield, 400 hits: 4.12
178 AC, 12 of this AC is from a shield, 1400 hits: 4.11
178 AC, No shield, 1400 hits: 4.31
Again, pretty good evidence that shield AC can have an impact. Looking at the 55 AC tests with and without shield AC shows 4.32 vs 4.03. 178 AC with and without shows 4.31 vs 4.11. The one anomaly that jumps out is that 55 AC with a shield has lower damage/hit than 178 AC with a shield, 4.03 vs 4.11. I don't think that's enough to invalidate anything.
So what could account for DSM finding evidence of shield AC mattering while I found evidence of shield AC not mattering? I think the most optimistic and least likely possibility is that shield AC applies even to a shield worn in the back slot, and when I rerun the experiment with a better methodology that's what I will find. I think the most likely possibility is that for (at least some) mobs it's possible to squelch their damage at a worn AC lower than any softcap such that shield AC is simply irrelevant. I notice that DSM's tests are lvl5 vs lvl5 and lvl60 vs lvl50, while mine was lvl60 vs lvl40, a bigger level difference.
The least likely but most hilarious possibility is that whenever I play EQ shield AC doesn't have an impact but whenever DSM plays EQ it does have an impact.