[CrazyPro]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guildmasters are definitely difficult, particularly when grouped together, and especially certain classes. Many of them are absolutely among the hardest things in the game to Solo, and some likely impossible to Solo (hence why they're in the Duo God tier instead).

I am perfectly aware of the 32K HP cap pre-Velious (which only a few revamped Planes MOBs exceed). A small handful these Challenge MOBs on the wiki are incorrectly listed as having more than 32K, but I already disregarded that in the initial tier placements. Those listings on the wiki need to be corrected, which requires them being tested for their exact HP. I maybe should have already edited those pages to 32K in the meantime, since that's at least more accurate, BUT there's also a small chance that a few of these Classic World NPC's randomly got their HP buffed above 32K by a dev during Velious era...it's not like anyone was killing them back then to confirm.

Not sure what you're trying to say about 32,000 HP in the first place though...are you not aware that most Solo God targets already have much less HP than that? Fungi King is only 18k for example. Now look at Guildmasters who have 32k, and cast devastating spells like C-heal, and are standing next to a bunch of other Level 61 GM's: these are incredibly difficult targets.

This is the rubric I used to place GM's:

20k HP without a difficult pull = Grandmaster
32K without a difficult pull or 20K with difficult pull = God
32K with a difficult pull or 20K with difficult pull and difficult spellcasting = Duo God

The exact stats need to be tested though. Also note something I said about how much more content there could be if listing all the possibilities of fighting rooms head-on instead of FD splitting them: many of these GM rooms would be Full Group tier, and some of them wouldn't even be possible with a Full Group!

All guildmasters have 32k HP, some may in fact have been given 2 million HP post-kunark.