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Originally Posted by ya.dingus
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I'll try to be concise and address your points:
1) You assigning meaning is the very crux of the issue. In your own post you quoted
You're both extremely clear in your intent and interpretation of what you believe the matter to be.
2) Gaslighting isn't positing someone may be incorrect based on their argument / counter arguments (as I provided). Neither is it lying. Gaslighting is the combination of refuting a person's reality while claiming they have some sort of deficiency "they're crazy/unstable, dishonest, etc).
What I'm saying is, that term doesn't mean what you think it means, and you've used it in the wrong context.
3) Not only did I extend a charitable interpretation of your definition, attempting to give you some wiggle room to back out of the flawed position you found yourself in, you then took that good will and attempted to appeal to character assassination (ad hominem) to defend an indefensible position. In short, and while I'm at the risk of being ironic, you're being incredibly intellectually disingenuous.
4) Again, a racial descriptor does not determine positive or negative qualities. It's simply a descriptor.
It seems you're so very desperate to force people into thinking that race must carry a bias (and in the examples above, a negative bias), but that's categorically and demonstrably not the case, and very much the definition of "racist".
Now please, for your sake, stop being silly. You're making my points for me at this juncture.
PS:
Giving into mental insanity doesn't make you right, it makes you foolish for not standing up for the correct thing, and that's a character flaw.
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I'm not assigning new meaning, I'm pointing out that people could interpret it in problematic ways. Saying "dark men" isn't automatically racist, I never said it was, but given the context of it being the guild name for an Erudite-only guild, why would you possibly want to put what could be seen as a racial descriptor in the guild name?
Who cares about skin color? Just call them Erudites. <Erudites of Odus>, easy.
This interpretation of the name "Dark Men of Odus" is pretty much the same as if it was called "Black People of Odus", and do you not see how that name could be problematic?