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Originally Posted by Goregasmic
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My only point is if I wanted a frostweaver embroidered cloak, it would be much faster for me to farm 18k than be there for the next dain kill assuming no one wants one and it drops first try.
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I guess it depends. In my guild, the last one "sold" for 220 DKP. Each kill varies, but major targets (stuff like Dain, ToV dragons, etc.) are worth about 20 DKP, so you'd need about 11 such kills for a cloak.
I'd imagine you could attend eleven raids in a few weeks, then go to to Dain raids for a few weeks, faster than you can earn 18k (and find a seller) ... but maybe not if you are good at plat farming?
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... or all the no drop raid gear.
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There are a few better NO DROP options:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Special.../Back/AllItems. But also, there's the
Shroud of the Dar Brood. It has similar stats (but no Charisma), and it only "sold" for 20DKP at the last Zlandi.
You could join a major raid guild, go on just two raids (anything decent and Zlandicar ) and walk away with a cloak nearly as good as the Dain one.