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Originally Posted by kjs86z2
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lol i went on vacation a week and a half ago
come back, 115 pages, almost 400 replies from DSM
sounds about right
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Here’s a concise summary of the discussion in that thread:
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Core Topic: Solo kill of the Myconid Spore King by a Monk ("OP")
The original poster videoed killing Fungi King solo on a monk with no consumables, earning a [S] solo rating, though there's dispute over whether that qualifies as S+ given a wiki update post-OP.
Debate 1: "Pocket cleric"/buff controversy
Multiple users argue whether it's acceptable to use outside buffs (e.g., pocket clerics) in solo challenges.
bcbrown and others express confusion about "pocket healer" usage and note the topic erupts later in the thread
Some (like Zuranthium and Stryker85) contend that allowing buffs makes melee bosses actually beatable, since pure buffs/no consumable kills for melee are “literally impossible”
Stryker85 challenged claims that many support buff restrictions, noting only “one single other person” held that view
Debate 2: Math and parsing integrity (DSM vs critics)
A user attacked DSM (DeathsSilkyMist), accusing him of ignoring math flaws and being overly argumentative .
DSM countered, identifying a regen oversight in OP's fight calculations (HP tick sources: fungi, ring, Iksar regen), which affected total heal amount.
Critics accused DSM of trolling and derailing; DSM responded that his suspension (on the official wiki) was deserved .
Overall tone
The thread regularly devolves into personal jabs, with heavy trolling, derailing, and distrust:
Calls like “Typical DSM behavior” and accusations of “constantly patrolling RnF and filling it with spam” .
Despite these distractions, others attempted to get back on topic about ranking the kill (S vs S+), regen math accuracy, and the legitimacy of outside buffs.
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Takeaways
Solo monk kill is impressive, but its classification ([S] vs [S+]) is under debate due to rule changes.
There's a heated divide: whether solo challenges should allow any external buffs, with no strong consensus—only a few vocal proponents on each side.
The thread has been heavily sidetracked by community drama, especially surrounding DSM and criticisms of his debate style and calculations.