[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah try to get the concept of "language" in the way we use it or hear it out of the equation.

The "concept" that they are "communicating" and have "thought" is what im trying to say.

They just process that in a way that makes us think they don't have any of that.

Like, to a dog, they thihnk we are dumb animals and they are smart.



Like both are effectively thinking that. Being totally conscious but totallyl un aware of each others consciousness.

The old: If an ant is next to a highway, does it know there is a highway there? Or does it think it's open wilderness.

Do we not see the highway right outside of our consciousness?

Dogs and cats can still think and plan. They can even defer gratification for greater rewards. It's just not done through a linguistic process.

And in a lot of "animals" requires habitation, training. Learning through experience...clicker training is the prompt to select from these learned in feelings and expectations so to speak for certain behaviors.

Animals aren't people. Butt they are part of the universe which produces people. And people are dependent on animals and are there for inseparable.

However while people may be people. People are still also animals and still prone to exactly all the fundamental aspects of animal behavior and conditioning. It takes exceptional genetics and circumstances to become aware of and gain some measure of meaningful control over that aspect of the so called self. Most humans are as incapable as dogs. I still love them. And dogs tho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]