gwurms are a lot harder than juggs, but not as bad if you die
for juggs:
if you could get player 4 to let you use his cleric, run cleric / monk / enchanter - keep player 3 cleric parked at coth spot in case of all out wipe
although if you guys are all under leveled/geared itll still be tough
should be easy enough to find a coth to poop mountain, fk around and find out
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