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Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the eqemu research into mob mitigation values I linked previously is correct and those values are implemented correctly on p99, the implication is xp mobs up to 60 should all be ‘trivial’ in terms of beating their mitigation for your monk.

I’d love to see you pop by a vindi (or even better AoW but that isn’t so trivial to stumble across) and see if the relative difference in dw/2h persists.

If this is the case, then I am still correct Corudoth is a good parse target. Troxx was still wrong about that. You can accurately compare DPS between different weapons (including how much STR affects DPS), and these comparisons will be accurate for 95% or more of mobs in the game. You don't need to parse every non-raid mob out there. Corudoth has no special property that changes how he parses when comparing different weapons.

I already showed previously how a high mitigation target like AoW can skew more in favor of damage bonus.

 

The one scenario where the differences will change more significantly between 1h and 2h in a parse is if the Damage Roll gets reduced close to the minumum possible damage via mitigation offset.

For example, lets take two weapons:

2h weapon
100 average damage roll
30 damage bonus

1h weapon
55 average damage roll
10 damage bonus
Attacks 2x as fast

In this scenario, the 1h will match the 2h, as it has 65 x 2 = 130 damage, which is the same as the 2h.

If a mob reduced the damage rolls by 80% via their mitigation offset:

2h weapon
100 average damage roll * 0.2 = 20 damage
30 damage bonus

1h weapon
55 average damage roll * 0.2 = 11 damage
10 damage bonus
Attacks 2x as fast

Now you have 50 2h damage vs 44 1h damage. When your damage roll starts getting too low, then you will see an offset, and Damage bonus becomes a bigger factor for overall DPS. This is the argument made for AoW. His mitigation offset is so high that you will see this effect.

For the vast majority of mobs, I doubt you will see this effect in any significant way, as my data is comparing a level 5 and a level 50. AoW is one exception to the rule for sure, which everybody has always agreed.

This was known already. If you want to parse a specific target, do it. That was also known already.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doubtful he'll take any of us (me especially) at our word for it. It's ok. He seems to have a had a fire lit under his ass at this point. If he leaves the napkins in the kitchen and keeps collecting actual data he will figure it out sooner or later.

I'm proud of him.

He has thus far whacked on a level 5 turtle, a level 50 giant in FM, and some garbage in TOFS. I mean ... how much more of this game is left other than that?



He's at a a unique level right now for his monk that he will see the interesting phenomenon that his epic fist + SoS will pull ahead of IFS + fistweaving if he ever gets around to parsing a non-trivial mob.

It is clear at this point Troxx has a flaw in his understanding of P99 parses and how melee damage works. I picked four random mobs out of a hat with different levels and from different expansions. They all had the same parsing pattern. The odds of that happening is quite low. For someone who supposedly parses everyday, this should give Troxx pause. If Troxx wants to keep pretending he can never be wrong, that's his choice. I've provided enough evidence to cast serious doubt on his claims:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=430

No more freebies (as Troxx will say). He needs to provide data at this point if he wants to counter this data. If Troxx wants to spend his time writing paragraphs of off topic nonsense instead, I cannot stop him. I can just point back to this data, and the reader can decide who is more credible.