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Originally Posted by Ripqozko
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2h is superior even if you won't ever agree.
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His napkin math and short parses on low ac xp mobs on a 52 monk do not agree with you or anyone else know knows the truth to be otherwise.
But going back 10+ pages let us repeat this:
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Originally Posted by Troxx
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Point is simply that no matter how you slice it, the mantra of fast weapons for the damage bonus was turned on its head. 2handers now deal more damage bonus per unit time than fast weapons.
At 60 a 2handed weapon with a delay of 30 (tstaff) for example will have a chance to apply 29 damage bonus per hit at an interval of 3 seconds (1.5 seconds at max haste).
You would need a 1hander with a starting delay of 11 (before haste) to have greater dmg bonus potential. A delay of 12 isn’t fast enough.
No such weapon exists.
Admittedly the delay of 30 is quite literally THE sweet spot. Let’s use another example.
For a 2handed weapon with a delay of 40 (IFS) … it’s 34 dmg per 4 seconds.
You would need a 1 hander (main hand) with a delay of 13 to have mathematical parity with the dmg bonus potential of the IFS and a delay of 12 to beat it.
No such weapons exist.
This is why dual wielding for monks is so generally lame at this point. There has to be a massive (BiS endgame dual wield setups) ratio advantage to compete (beat) with 38/40 or 29/30 EC monk 2hander. At that point they only win via massive ratio superiority. If you have access to those weapons, you also have access to ToV or VP 2handers (and probably many for cheaper dkp) with ratios that far outclass the EC gear.
The higher the ac, the more relative importance the portion of your damage from damage bonus.
Math is math. It really isn’t complicated.
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It used to be that ratio was king (still true) but fast one handers carried the relative advantage of being preferred on high ac mobs where damage bonus (static) favored fast 1handers. A superior 2hand ratio could lose out to an inferior DW setup when more of your hits were going to be on the lower end of the spectrum of possibility.
Now it is literally the opposite. Ratio remains king but dmg bonus favors the 2hander. Which setup has more dmg bonus potential is not up for debate. It is a known fact now. An inferior ratio 2hander can outperform a superior DW setup - it depends on how far apart the ratio gap is. Tier for tier and content for content … 2handers will more or less always win. Endgame 2handers outperform endgame dual wield. Groupable or low raid 2handers outperform comparable tier dual wields. Very high end groupable 2handers for monks (specifically TStaff) are shockingly competitive to raid level dual wield setups.
It really is not rocket surgery.
Math is math
(except for DSM’s napkin math)