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Originally Posted by zelld52
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there are some bards in this game that dont play nice with others. for some reason, they are immune to the PnP put in place in this game. these are the bards that dont care if the zone is packed, dont care if someone is on the 2nd / 3rd floor.. and spend 7 days a week swarming in city of mist.
fuck those bards. and honestly CSR seemingly doesnt give a shit about it
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To be clear I'm not advocating for people to be shitty to each other and fully agree with the few productive posts in the thread that point out that a little communication goes a long way.
With that said, to say what has been described here is a PNP violation, and that CSR doesn't enforce PNP violations isn't really an accurate depiction. Copy and pasting directly from the PNP:
In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders (or the room if there are no placeholders) cleared, within the same zone, do not die or log off.
As you can see the camp rules define that a camp is claimed when the mobs in the camp are consitently being cleared, not when someone is standing in an area staring at a bunch of spawned mobs. The fact that in the examples given the bard was not only able to find enough mobs that were sitting there un-engaged at their spawn points to achieve a kite, but were actually able to find 2-3x more than the 25 limit their pbaoe songs will hit displays that there were clearly pulling from camps that were not already claimed per written letter of the policy.
A more accurate depiction of the events is that there are people on P99 that have become so entitled because of how sparse the server is that it has become an expectation that when you exp in an area that you won't encounter other players also trying to do the same thing. Therefore these people operate under the assumption that if any mob in the zone they could possibly consider killing gets contested that its a flagrant foul that should be met with sweeping punishment and class nerfs, when in reality the ruleset gives no one person or entity favoritism over another when it comes to competing for mobs that are not already actively engaged and/or consistently being cleared. Therefore the events that have occurred as described in this thread are in fact
ENDORSED by the PNP. Which is the actual reason that CSR isn't taking corrective action, because the players in these examples are in fact following the rules. A ruleset that is designed to ensure that all players in aggregate as a community experience the most amount of opportunities to receive experience and loot but not wasting mobs sitting up at their spawn point.
The solution is EXTREMELY SIMPLE. You will never have a camp dispute with someone in P99 if you actually properly hold down your camp. Its not possible for someone to pull mobs out of your camp when the mobs are all dead. Pick a camp you can actually manage, i.e. keep all the spawns dead before repops. Pay attention to respawn timers and IF you have a gap AND there are other mobs in the area sitting up you're fine to kill them to be as efficient as possible, just make sure you're ready for that first repop so you don't risk losing the claim on your actual properly claimed camp. At that point the only thing someone can do to negatively impact your camp is train you or kill steal a mob you're engaged on. Both of which are very clear cut and dry violations of the PNP and therefore CSR will infact enforce if a petition is needed.