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Originally Posted by magicfest2
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“A well designed list system with proper breaks and shared efforts” is absolutely not “/list” so if you mean a player run list please be careful to differentiate it from /list which is a specific code-implemented feature of the server. I’m going to assume from here on that you DO NOT mean /list when you refer to lists. Hopefully that’s correct.
As far as the current Castle camp, they aren’t monopolizing the supply to drive up prices — they’re literally the ones using the urns in most cases. It isn’t a conspiracy to make prices go up. It’s just a normal reduction of supply, whether it’s Castle doing it or the server as a whole, the difference is just which players get them, at which point it is a question of whether it is effort based or RNG based. I gave an example before which may have seemed abstract but is based directly on months of observation. Essentially the second case happened when my group originally took over and had the camp for a great deal of a three month period. That’s when you saw prices go up to 250k — because the first 20 or so urns we got were almost exclusively not for resale, so the supply for several months almost completely dried up. That is what happens. When more resellers are camping it, the prices go down. I’m sure you are correct that there are different mindsets when it comes to buying or camping — some players likely will camp instead of buy (I’m an example of this, because I literally was dead broke 100% of the time, so helped form a group for this), but a lot of people really would likely still just pay instead of trying to figure it out or put in the rather large time commitment as there are much easier ways to make money over the long term with lower effort. I understand that just like real world economics, there are so many factors that even the best economists are honestly right about as often as wrong. I’m pretty confident from having watched an actual example of this play out though, so we can revisit in a year of you manage to get a change (assuming we’re both still around) and one of us can say “I told you so”. XD
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Your response essentially proves my point about monopolization: whether the intent is to use or sell, the outcome is the same - restricted access for the broader player base, leading to scarcity and high prices.
The fact that urn prices increased to 250k when your group held the camp for several months, primarily using urns rather than selling them, illustrates the impact of limited access on the market. When fewer urns are available for resale, prices naturally increase due to scarcity, regardless of the intent behind the monopolization. It also shows that it’s not "the server as a whole" creating this scarcity, but rather a minority of individual groups. Therefore, the "normal reduction of supply" is actually not normal; it’s a result of monopolization by specific groups.
Edit: I want to reiterate that the intent of my responses is not to argue about market economics, but to show how it’s not providing a fair and healthy environment for the community, which is why the agreement is being proposed.