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Originally Posted by Vear99
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A thread about class selection implicitly disables pocket characters because the question has no meaning otherwise. Otherwise the answer is always 'you'll be most effective with a BIS monk, shaman, cleric, enchanter, warrior, rogue, and maybe wizard' like Toxigen's sig. I don't think your overall statements in this thread are bad, but you are so focused on winning every argument that you are churning out some absolutely ridiculous rationalizations and that is why people are getting frustrated and slinging mud at you.
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This is just a slippery slope argument, and has already been debunked multiple times. Creating a new pocket Cleric in a group purposely starting new characters together is clearly not the same thing as using a stable of existing BiS mains/alts. Those characters already exist. A new pocket cleric is made by this group and they level it up together.
No, a thread about class selection does not implicitly disable pocket characters. It doesn't implicitly disable mules either. Mules are also characters that exist outside of the picked class to provide utility. Same with pocket characters. Plenty of people use pocket characters in static groups, and will continue to do so regardless of this thread.
You seem to be ignoring the other posters like Troxx who is so hell bent on winning he will spam the thread, troll, and lie about what other people have said. It is always amazing that people ignore this bad behavior and think it is ok. This thread would have been over long ago without this kind of nonsense.
You say I need to provide evidence. I have done a lot more of that than the opposition. Why don't you do this yourself, or ask someone else to do so? Evidence would be great, but it's mostly coming from me and nobody else. This seems one sided don't you think?
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Originally Posted by Duik
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I postured the same question god knows how many pages back.
I bet you dont get an answer either.
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I've answered this question many times. You can Torpor Tank and do other things. Just watch one of my many videos:
https://youtu.be/KPs_VghU-v4?feature=shared
You can Torpor tank and deal with a charm break, I've done it before.
The root/rotting scenario has always been a DPS focused Shaman, doing that instead of normal Shaman duties. I didn't say you would be Torpor Tanking and root/rotting 5 mobs at the same time anywhere in this thread. It is just another straw man.
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Originally Posted by Keebz
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If you can torpor tank something an enchanter can probably just solo it. That's a pretty low bar.
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Yes, most content this group can do is Torpor Tankable and/or Enchanter soloable. That is why a Cleric main is generally not going to be at their best in this group. There is no Warrior to be CHed. The Enchanter can handle most charm breaks solo. You'll be using things like Shaman Slow and Malo more often than Cleric Stun and blast heals. You won't need to CH the pets with Torpor tanking.
Pocket the Cleric for Chardok Royals and the occasional Res. People already do this.