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Old 06-28-2024, 10:49 AM
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I do not recall ever citing “need” for cheal on a pet. That is just an idiotic straw man demand you made of me - one I’m still happy to ignore on the grounds of the absurdity of the ask and the argument that would follow.

And yeah … no. When considering big ass nasty high dps charm pets, the value of multiple quick cast stun, actually POTENT blast heals, super efficient complete heal on high hp pets, multiple DAs and … when all else fails … Rez …

It is literally a no-brainer. You are, I think, the only person on this server who isn’t capable of recognizing the perfect synergy between a charming enchanter (2 or 3 of them in this case) and the cleric class.


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So what are we left with in this thread?

-You have claimed that shamans can dps like mages in a fast paced group with multiple charm pets.

*they can’t, not even close

-you have advocated for bringing the shaman because the group will want you root rotting 4-5 mobs parallel to the group

*nobody wants that

-you have stated that this exercise in theorycrafting allows for pocketing whatever class you want on the side for what might need - notably cleric but heck let’s extend this to a pocket wiz to TL them? Pocket druid for potg?

*lol no that wasn’t the point of this thread. You’re just moving goalposts to try to rationalize why your chosen main should make the cut

-you are now trying to warp reality in asserting that an enchanter charming a high dps quadding hasted pet would rather have a shaman watching their back than a cleric

*lol no … just … no …

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Look man, shamans are a great/stellar class. Very powerful with a wide tool kit. Unfortunately, they just don’t really fit in here. Everything important that they CAN do is redundant to what the group already has. They don’t need you to slow. For content that needs slow, 2 other group members can do that. They don’t need you to heal. The cleric has that covered. They don’t need you to CC. At least 3 of the other 4 will have root. 2 of them have mez. Malo is nice and has value but there’s another that can do that.

A shaman in this group would basically be tossing unnecessary buffs, standing by for backup heals that won’t be needed, and maybe trying to contribute some dps - but as has already been proven - they will do that poorly when you’ve got 2 buzz-saw ench pets going to town. The best damage shamans put out are dots - and this group isn’t really going to have mobs living long enough for dots to do much of anything.

Great class … except in this weird theorycraft situation
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