Umm not sure I never saw GM's on live. I don't think people PVP'd as much as they do on Red. On TZ it was very segregated, Pandemonium was the only ones to do Trak/VS etc then really the only ones that could do Velious raids I don't think anyone trained them dirty. No one knew anything back then. I think by SZ there were some bard griefers I remember hearing but nothing really substantial on TZ.
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